Des O'Connor
08 Oct 2009
A True Gent
by Karen Shaw
Des O’ Connor is a legend in his own time. With a career spanning over 50 years in show business he has continued to entertain the nation with his sparkling wit and dulcet singing tones. He has performed over a thousand solo shows at the London Palladium, as well as appearing in millions of front rooms with his numerous TV shows. He really is slicker than slick and he’s heading up North.
Des, you’re on the verge of your nationwide tour, are you looking forward to it?
I always look forward to it and this time we have about 22 dates and will be the first time in 46 years that I’ve never had a television series. When I left Countdown it was because I wanted to get back to doing live performances and live television. The sort of things we used to do on Des and Mel was the best two and half hours of any day.
What can the audience expect this time?
I don’t know! Not everything can be completely spontaneous but we just haven’t rehearsed what we are saying, it just happens. In the first part of the show it’s just my-self and Ray Monk on piano who is a brilliant musician but most of that is really off the top of our heads.
So, you just do it as you feel it then?
Yeah, well we have a pattern, I’ll say things like ‘has anyone got any personal problems?’ and then someone will shout out and you find yourself in the most hilarious conversations. I wouldn’t want people to think they are going to be embarrassed. I would never go up to someone or point someone out, but, if they want to volunteer to talk to me then they do so and that’s why I like playing the slightly smaller venues. I don’t really like to go bigger than 1,000 seater, it’s like a party and it’s more intimate. Another thing we do, which is a game that actually started by accident when Ray Monk walked off the stage in a pretend huff about something I’d said, I thought ‘Right, you little devil,’ so I said to the audience ‘does anybody play piano?’ and somebody came up and played, so most nights now we’ll do it and someone will come up. I had one woman that came up and played like Les Dawson in his prime and there was another little guy that came up and he only knew one song and that was God Save the Queen!
Well, I think it’s lovely that you get the audience involved…
All that kind of stuff happens in the first part of the show and then the second part of the show is the cream, we have a giggle.
I am going to come and see you on your last date of the tour which is at The Muni in Colne.
Oh yes, I hope it isn’t my last one! (laughing). Well, see what you have just said, anything anyone says you can turn it into a bit of a laugh, it doesn’t matter. I have never been to the theatre in Colne and I’ve never been to Lancaster either, so I’m really looking forward to it.
I’m sure you will have a good time; northern folks are so friendly and ‘down to earth’.
That sounds great. I’m from a working class family and I never ever behaved in a ‘la de da’, diva way. I just want to have a giggle and from the moment I walk out on that stage. It’s not a case of how I’m going to break the ice or what shall we do. Oh gosh, I’m just looking at the dates and I’m in Colne on Friday 13th, I’ve never been there before and they send me on Friday the 13th! But, I can guarantee there will be lots laughs and lots of fun, you can even bring the kids because there might be a couple of cheeky lines but nothing crude or horrible, it’s a family night out.
Well I may bring my children with me…
Are you old enough to have children?
Oh, you charmer, yes I’m 38. I have a six year old daughter, Ruby and a son Frank who is two.
Well, if Ruby wouldn’t mind a toy boy I have a little boy Adam who’s five soon!
He’s a handsome little devil isn’t he?
Oh yes, everyone says he is a little Brad Pitt then they say like father like son!
So is he going to be there?
No, he can’t come that far, I don’t think he has ever seen me do concert, he has watched me on Countdown. A couple of years ago on my birthday they gave me a cake shaped like the Countdown clock and I took it home and showed it to him, then every time he saw the clock on TV he’d say ‘cake!’
In this edition, we’re running a feature on World War II, I was wondering how you were affected by the war?
I’m not old enough to remember things like that! I did live in London at the tail end of the blitz but we were evacuated to Northampton.
You were in the RAF as well I believe?
Yes, we were dropping fire bombs on the Kaiser (laughing). Yes I was in the air force but when Hitler heard that I’d joined up and he thought that’s it!
Do you think they should bring National Service back?
Well, at the risk of creating quite a riot it certainly didn’t do me any harm. I was always a Mummy’s boy and I was always at home and didn’t go out much, so I think it helped me to broaden my outlook on life. It made me more independent and I could do things for myself and function without Mum and Dad. I don’t want to get on my soapbox as it’s not really my style but I do think a lot of young guys today don’t have any direction. They don’t know where to go or what to do, whereas the air force, for me was about
camaraderie, I did athletics and all sorts of things I would never have done unless I’d gone into the air force, I’d say it wouldn’t do any harm to bring it back. If it hadn’t been for the RAF I would have never gone into showbiz because I was literally ordered on stage. I had been doing impressions of my Seargent and I heard ‘Very funny O’Connor, talent contest this weekend.’ I replied that I was on weekend leave but he said ‘no, you’re not!’ He told me he would see I got no leave for the next six months so I literally was ordered into a talent contest which I then won.
Now I believe that you were in a car accident when you were young and your parents were told that you would never walk again. Is it true that when your dad caught you standing without your calipers and said ‘if he can stand, he can walk’?
Yes, I couldn’t walk until I was seven, and I’d been walking for six months when I got run over by a car, so I was back in hospital again for ten months. Six months after the car accident, I was playing by the hospital, digging in a sand pit. We didn’t know it was a building site and half the blooming building fell down on top of us! So I had a season ticket for the hospital!
What was your childhood like Des?
Oh, it was a lot of fun, as clichéd as it may sound. My Mum and Dad couldn’t be more helpful. My Mum was a cleaner and my dad was, well, on my birth certificate it says he was a ‘scavenger’ in those days that was a dustman or road sweeper. They were the most fantastic people. In fact one of the most amazing nights of my life was at the London Palladium I asked them to come and see me at the Royal Command Performance, when I was appearing. I managed to get them in the royal box and rolled out the red carpet for them and sent a car to pick them up from Northampton. That night I sang their favourite song, ‘You’ll Never Know’, at the end my Dad came and put his arms around me and said ‘Good job son.’ My Mum came out of the Ladies room and said ‘I’ve just used the Queen’s loo!’ (laughs). That was her big moment! They were wonderful.
What was your first job?
I was a printer for three days at a seven months apprentice. I didn’t think that was for me very much. I found myself on a bicycle delivering parcels and I bumped into a mate, who was delivering meat, and he was getting paid five pound a week and I was getting 15 shillings so I decided printing wasn’t for me. I left there, then I got a job in a shoe and boot factory, as a complaints manager when there was something wrong with the shoes they came to me. But they’re the only two jobs I’ve ever had, then I entered the ‘entertainment factory’ and I haven’t done a day’s work since! (laughs)
Is it true that you have one of Buddy Holly’s guitars?
Yes, I did a tour with him in 1958, the only tour he did sadly. At the end of the tour he gave me his guitar because I was giving him jokes and he was getting big laughs! I’ve still got it; it’s a very proud possession.
What was Buddy like?
I remember on one occasion he was struggling to get out of bed, so they sent me in. I started tugging on his feet (he was six foot two), I was tugging on his feet saying ‘Come on Buddy, the coach wants to go.’ and he’d say ‘Don’t do that Des,’ When I asked him why not he replied ‘because I’m tall enough!’ (laughs) He had a good sense of humour.
In 1979 you launched ‘Des O’Connor Tonight’ who was the most inspirational person you ever interviewed.
There’s not many I’d call inspirational, but enjoyable! Because for me, it was wonderful interviewing people like Barbra Streisand, people that you don’t normally get on TV shows. In fact that was the only show she did in front of a live audience, though I believe Jonathan Ross is going to interview her soon.
What qualities do you think make a good talk show host?
There’s two things to remember, you’re not the guest, and you’ve got to look after the guest, and don’t talk all over them, give them space, listen to them and if they say something you’ve never had any idea they might say just go with it, just relax and enjoy. I don’t do interviews, I do conversations! An interview is where you have a list of questions and you fire them off and you get answers, I mean Parkinson was great. It’s of you, of the moment. When I got the talk show in England, after I’d worked in America for so long, I thought I know what I want to do I want to bring American comedians in. I saw some young lads out there and on that first series, I had David Letterman, Jay Leno, Jerry Seinfeld all completely unknown! Les Dawson was my very first guest, I remember one question I asked him, that I knew would wind him up. I asked ‘Do you believe humour is an aphrodisiac?’, to which he replied ‘The only woman I’ve had outside of marriage was a suffragette and she was chained to the railings outside the pub!’
Who has been your most awkward guest?
Whitney Huston was a pain, she insisted upon going on first to which we agreed. When we went out there to do the show, she changed her mind saying she wasn’t going to do the interview. But, I went out there and just introduced her and of course she did come out then. But, I think she had her own problems and issues at that time.
Your new album ‘Inspired’ is fantastic...
I’m so pleased to hear you say that, all the tracks are original. It’s a collection of 18 original songs, it’s a celebration of the return of romantic ballads and swing sounds. I hope people enjoy listening to it as much as I enjoyed recording it.
You look absolutely great for 77, how on earth do you do it?
Lie about your age, I’m 42 actually! (laughs) I just think the attitude of enjoying life and seeing the good side of anything that bothers you. Whatever your issues, there are people with ten times worse problems. I don’t want to sound clichéd this is real, if you’ve got love and laughter in your family and good healthy children around, then you’ve got something to be enthusiastic about.
You were awarded a CBE in 2008 weren’t you?
Yeah, Cute But Entertaining!
What was it like meeting the Queen?
It was lovely and she did actually say thank you so much for so many hours of enjoyable entertainment, and I thought isn’t that nice after all the insults I’ve received in the past.
You got quite a lot of flack from Morecambe and Wise…
They only insulted me once in fourteen years. I’ve even had my album thrown in a river, but affection lasts a lot longer than admiration.
You smile in the face of adversity don’t you?
Well, I think we all take ourselves far too seriously. I’ve never had any real adversity or real tragedies in my life. Despondency should be a stepping stone to something better, you’ve got to think ‘well, what have I learned from it, how can I improve?’ And over the years that’s what’s been happening to me. Another thing about show business is you’re never completely at the top, there’s always something new, there’s always another challenge, there’s always something exciting, you can never get bored.
Have you done much travelling up North?
Well, Countdown was filmed in Leeds. I would go up there three to four times a month. I’m thrilled about visiting the North again. I’m getting to go to a few little venues I’ve never been before.
Do you have a favourite northern dish?
Ooh, Yorkshire pudding. When I used to visit Leeds, I once visited a restaurant, when I sat down for dinner in the middle of this plate was this great big Yorkshire pudding and gravy and I thought this is weird as it was a starter! It was lovely though.
Des and Mel, do you still keep in contact with that bright northern lass?
We never stop talking her and me! (In thick northern accent). We go out for dinner every so often and we get asked to keep it down because we can’t stop laughing! You and Mel are both capable of talking the hind legs off a donkey! You certainly are a good talker!
Des’s Northern Tour Dates
Sunday 25th October
The Grand Theatre, Leeds
Tel:08448 482706
Friday 13th November
Grand Theatre, Lancaster
Tel: 01524 64695
Sunday 15th November
The Muni, Colne
Tel: 01282 661234
Interview from issue 28 Oct/Nov 09. To order this issue go to the Northern Life online store.